These "but commutes are good actually!" articles are really cheesing me off. They all boil down to people enjoying dedicated break time where they have no work or personal responsibilities. You don't need a commute for that, you need boundaries.

I'm also salty because all of these articles I've seen figure an average daily commute of one hour, which I have never experienced in my working life. For the last decade I've always commuted about two hours a day, assuming the subway was operating correctly (it usually wasn't).

So, no: I'm not keen on the idea of going back to a pointless daily commute that took me away from everything and everyone I care about.

@maxeddy look, what you’re saying is great, but that’s not how corporate slavery works

@maxeddy Yeah seriously, just get up at the same time you would for your commute and go sit alone somewhere doing your commute stuff, if that's what you're into! I spend that time sleeping, personally.


Boundaries, another of the very many practical skills no one seems to be taught in school. Now can you tell me in which year the War of 1812 began?

I agree with you.... but...
For some of us it is really hard.

@binder Oh, absolutely! It's hard work, and something I still struggle with. But there must be a better solution than going back to commuting.

@binder @maxeddy an "objective" means/excuse for forcing a boundary is a helpful enough crutch that some people can't do without it... especially in places and fields where worker protection legislation is weak or absent and it basically hinges on whether the boss can be fooled into thinking the downtime in question is inevitable

@maxeddy you know what happens during my commute? I get some 50 minutes each way alone with my thoughts... Which somehow inevitably drift towards how capitalism is making my life miserable and increasingly hopeless so that's a fun time to spend on the way to the office, where I'm generally not even as PrOdUcTiVe as I am at home anyway

@maxeddy I really don't understand this line of thinking. The commute (especially the one into work) is usually the most stressful anxiety-inducing part of my work day. I have a choice of *standing* on a super crowded bus for 30 minutes each way or paying $100/wk for parking for the privilege of fighting rush hour traffic and save walking 2 blocks/day.

I know the office is an escape from home issues etc for many people but I've never heard people say they miss the commute...weird.

@msh Tbh I think it's mostly from nostalgic thinking at the moment of societal change. NPR did an "ode to the smell of stale cigarette smoke" when indoor smoking was banned.

@maxeddy Also a good half of those articles at least are written by commercial landlords or other people with a financial stake in making people commute.

@maxeddy there's good reasons not to want to work at home, but I can (and do) use that time for a walk right now and it's so good and I just have to do it (which is hard sometimes)

@platypus @maxeddy the mortifying ordeal of being outside without specific intent to be going anywhere

@maxeddy you know what good commuting is? Going to a place you actually wanna be~~~ 🙃

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