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Prediction: at some point, failure to actively and completely participate in social networks will be considered a sign of subversive behavior that must be investigated, similar to using PGP email or Tor is today.

@jerry TSA agent: "please log in to your Facebook account"
Me: "i don't use Facebook"
[a siren blares in the distance]

@annika @jerry

Actual adverts from UK police:

youtube.com/watch?v=elkW4Wjaro

"The man at the end of the street doesn't talk to his neighbours much, because he likes to keep himself to himself. He pays with cash because he doesn't have a bank card, and he keeps his curtains closed because his house is on a bus route. It may mean nothing, but..."

The Advertising regulator banned these ads for being offensive as they were implying lawful activity was criminal:

theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug/11

@switchingsocial @annika “if you see something, say something. Even if you don’t see something, say something just in case”

@jerry @annika

"Guido Menzio, an economist at the University of Pennsylvania, was working on a differential equation while waiting for the Syracuse-bound plane to take off from Philadelphia, the Washington Post reported. He had to present the findings of a working paper at Queen's University. But a passenger somehow mistook the equation for Arabic or some sort of Islamic code for a terrorist attack." :blobfacepalm:

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/201

@switchingsocial @jerry I have, only momentarily, considered bringing an RPi or Arduino on trips to keep me busy. Then I realize that's a shortcut to being handcuffed in a locked room

@switchingsocial @annika there was also a story about someone using Linux on a laptop in an airport and being reported.

@switchingsocial My memory may be failing, but this is probably the story I was thinking about: eff.org/press/archives/2009/04 - wasn't on a plane, was at a university, and wasn't recent. I suspect I smashed this one in my mind with the math equation situation you mentioned.

@jerry @switchingsocial @annika actually I made my old housemates freaked out just because I was installing Arch. 😂

@switchingsocial @jerry @annika what I don't get is, how does anyone think that someone would be plotting a terrorist attack on paper on a plane next to someone who can clearly see what they are writing....
(especially if she thought he was gonna attack the plane they were on, which... seriously? that'd be the worst prepared attack in the history of humanity)

@grainloom @jerry @annika

There's no thought, it's just an irrational fear of the unknown. :blobsad:

@grainloom @switchingsocial @jerry @annika - Most people’s ideas of evil doing come from movies. You see the villian preparing for the attack, often speaking and writing in indecipherable languages, codes, and texts. Storywise, this paints the villian as an other, as something foreign and wrong. Folks see it in real life and freak out. Art imitating life imitating art.

That’s how the CFAA was drafted as well... so there’s that.

@tinker @grainloom @switchingsocial @annika makes me wonder if real life bad guys are also influenced by movies and feel the need to create crazy diagrams and written plans, simply because that’s the expectation...

@jerry @tinker @grainloom @switchingsocial @annika

Given who produce the movies we are talking about, I doubt real-life #Evil people work so.

Actually, if I think about #Mafia, I guess it's much more people meeting for lunch and discussing who to kill and how while drinking a glass of wine and playing with their kids.

Maybe they are modeling Evils after owner and managers of #Capitalism that... plan and manage.
Or they use the "stigma of Evil" to ridiculize attempts to change the things.

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@jerry @tinker @grainloom @switchingsocial @annika

A nice example from #Disney is Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, in the toon "Phineas and Ferb".
He is the only #hacker who actually want to change the world (for the worse, from the O.W.C.A. perspective).

Phineas and Ferb, despite being just as smart as him, are deeply integrated in the mainstream vision: each morning the world is just like the day before and they are fine with it.
Ferb is the ideal #SV #engineer: he's smart and do what others want.

@jerry @tinker @grainloom @switchingsocial @annika

Yes, I loved it too.

Until I realized that #Doofenshmirtz, with all his pain and suffers, is there to make hackers like me appear ridiculous.

Think about it: in real life there's no way a person with his genius would go after such dumb goals.

He would change the #world, not just Danville and nearby.

The message for kids is: have fun, but don't try to change things.

@switchingsocial @jerry God that's terrifying. How did England create both George Orwell *and* such a sophisticated, paranoid surveillance state?

@annika
He went to Eton and learned through observing them in the police in India then back home. England learned divide and rule in the colonies then took it home when the empire shrank to the countries and regions in The United Kingdom. That Thatcher's war with the working class coincided with the end of the decline of empire may be no coincidence. Divide and rule now means immigrants and non-conformists of all splintered stripes.
@switchingsocial @jerry

@switchingsocial @annika @jerry creating a society where everyone is treated as a suspect and the most innocuous activity is viewed with suspicion. We’ve allowed individual liberty to be eroded too far and this is the inevitable consequence

@remotenemesis you’re probably right - just not an acknowledged practice yet.

@jerry I think it's probably happening among those background check companies and it's probably a little "unable to verify" mark on the report.

@remotenemesis crap. My social score is probably suffering right now.

@jerry No twitter, no facebook, no snapchat, no instagram, no pinterest, no google+ (hah!), laptop full of stickers.

^ me, a person of interest.

@remotenemesis @jerry I used to use a MacBook Pro as my primary computer and it's covered in stickers. Got checked for bombsauce every time I go to the airport. Switched a Microsoft Surface Pro w/ no stickers. No one bats an eye.

@jerry Don't tell me that. I bet the biggest CEOs today hardly use their social media accounts (if they have any)

@m4iler good news: The wealthy are exempt from this rule, as they are from many other rules.

@jerry Well then, let's become rich or influential! I bet Stallman would be on the "no-fuckery" list right under Zucc.

@jerry isn't this what China is doing with their seseme social credit system right now?

@crazypedia that system is much more complex. It factors what you purchase, how you pay bills, who you associate with in person and online (and how they rank on all these factors), among many other considerations.

@jerry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_C

"Website operators can mine the traces of data that users exchange with websites and derive a full social profile, including location, friends, health records, insurance, private messages, financial position, gaming duration, smart home statistics, preferred newspapers, shopping history, and dating behaviour."

@jerry

"Some types of punishments include: flight ban, exclusion from private schools, slow internet connection, exclusion from high prestige work, exclusion from hotels, and registration on a public blacklist."

@jerry pretty sure we got there years ago. fortunately Kara keeps a completely unused Facebook account to give to employers and government agencies

@jerry It's getting there. I had to set up a LinkedIn account as an employment pre-req (2005) and a Facebook account to comply with a background check (2007).

@jerry Good thing I made this here public facing Mastodon account.

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