I started looking into #XMPP clients with end-to-end-encryption support. First one was #Gajim, with its "charming" 90s messenger style. Encryption isn't the default here however, no progress on the corresponding issue. https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/-/issues/319
Next one was #Dino which looks better but expects knowledge of things like #XMPP identifiers without providing any explanation when something is wrong (yes, version 0.1). Here as well, encryption isn't the default. At least the discussions are younger. https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/844
@WPalant what do you mean with "XMPP identifier"? Do you mean the Jabber ID what looks like an email address?
@jr Yes, that for example. When registering I had to enter a user name and select a server, yet it expected me to compose a Jabber ID myself when logging in. And it genuinely confused me when I tried to join a channel, I didn't realize that channel IDs were composed in the same way.
@WPalant maybe open an issue for this? I totally understand how this could be confusing for first time XMPP users
@jr It's not really an isolated incident. It's a general symptom of a UI which wasn't designed with less knowledgeable users in mind. And opening issues only gets you so far...
@WPalant @jr i used to give things to my aged Father to try... he always came back with things devs (and QA) didn't even consider 🙄